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Re: [I] Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251338] Sa, 08 April 2006 19:59
Mary Messall  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
> Anyone who even vaguely considers that I might be played by Woody Allen
> will die horribly, slowly, and before their first cup of coffee on a
> Monday morning.

Eric Idle? He doesn't look much like you I suppose (though more
than Woody Allen!) but then, I know for a fact you don't favor
casting based on looks.

If it's AFP casting, I wanna be played by Lauren Graham.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/ .

If it's Tale casting, then I think Messy could be done well by
Sarah Clarke
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/

-Mary

--
The blog I said I'd never write --
http://viewfromthecorner.blogspot.com
Re: [I] Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251344 ] Sa, 08 April 2006 20:09
Eric Jarvis  
MetaMary mks_mary [at] sbcglobal.net wrote in
<rSSZf.65590$Jd.59906 [at] newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
> > Anyone who even vaguely considers that I might be played by Woody Allen
> > will die horribly, slowly, and before their first cup of coffee on a
> > Monday morning.
>
> Eric Idle? He doesn't look much like you I suppose (though more
> than Woody Allen!) but then, I know for a fact you don't favor
> casting based on looks.
>

S'true. If I was really put on the spot I would probably do something like
cast Whoopi Goldberg as me and change my back story a little.

> If it's AFP casting, I wanna be played by Lauren Graham.
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/ .
>
> If it's Tale casting, then I think Messy could be done well by
> Sarah Clarke
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/
>

Makes sense. Though I suspect that Hollywood Messy is probably played by
Jessica Alba.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re:[I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251649 ] Mo, 10 April 2006 11:47
gidjabol  
MetaMary wrote:
>
> If it's Tale casting, then I think Messy could be done well by
> Sarah Clarke
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/

That leads to Laura Graham as well. Did you mean Sarah Clarke from 24?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1020124/

I have to confess I always thoguht Messy should be played by Sandra
Bullock.

Orjan
--
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
Fiction, Thoughts and Software
http://www.cunobaros.com/
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251661 ] Mo, 10 April 2006 15:18
Mary Messall  
Orjan Westin wrote:

> MetaMary wrote:
>>If it's Tale casting, then I think Messy could be done well by
>>Sarah Clarke
>>http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/
> That leads to Laura Graham as well. Did you mean Sarah Clarke from 24?
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1020124/

Er... Yes. I really *liked* Nina.

> I have to confess I always thoguht Messy should be played by Sandra
> Bullock.

She's okay, but since she bears a such a striking resemblance to
my cousin Elizabeth, she can't possibly play me.

-Mary

--
The blog I said I'd never write --
http://viewfromthecorner.blogspot.com
Re: [I] Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251716 ] Di, 11 April 2006 00:01
Marco Villalta  
Eric Jarvis <web [at] ericjarvis.co.uk> wrote:
> MetaMary mks_mary [at] sbcglobal.net wrote:

[casting a.f.p, specifically Eric]

>> Eric Idle? He doesn't look much like you I suppose (though
>> more than Woody Allen!) but then, I know for a fact you don't
>> favor casting based on looks.
>
> S'true. If I was really put on the spot I would probably do
> something like cast Whoopi Goldberg as me and change my back
> story a little.

I think it's obvious that Tommy Lee Jones should play Eric. He's
the only one cool enough.

>> If it's AFP casting, I wanna be played by Lauren Graham.
>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/ .

Works for me.

>> If it's Tale casting, then I think Messy could be done well
>> by Sarah Clarke
>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/

Did you mean <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1020124/> ?
(Agent Nina Myers in 24.)

Yeah, I can see that.

> Makes sense. Though I suspect that Hollywood Messy is probably
> played by Jessica Alba.

Well, you won't hear me complain.

--
Marco Villalta -- afpStuff in headers
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251732 ] Di, 11 April 2006 00:32
Marco Villalta  
MetaMary <mks_mary [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Orjan Westin wrote:
>> MetaMary wrote:
>>> If it's Tale casting, then I think Messy could be done well
>>> by Sarah Clarke http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/
>> That leads to Laura Graham as well. Did you mean Sarah Clarke
>> from 24? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1020124/
>
> Er... Yes. I really *liked* Nina.

Me too.

SPOILER SPACE for the first season of 24...















.... while we're on the general subject.

Has anyone here seen the "alternative ending"? The one which
reputedly wasn't aired anywhere but only available on the DVD
set, and which, reputedly, was significantly better and a proper
closure? If so, could they please retell it?

--
Marco Villalta -- afpStuff in headers
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251775 ] Di, 11 April 2006 03:44
Mary Messall  
Marco Villalta wrote:

> MetaMary <mks_mary [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Orjan Westin wrote:
>>
>>>MetaMary wrote:
>>>
>>>>If it's Tale casting, then I think Messy could be done well
>>>>by Sarah Clarke http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/
>>>
>>>That leads to Laura Graham as well. Did you mean Sarah Clarke
>>>from 24? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1020124/
>>
>>Er... Yes. I really *liked* Nina.
>
>
> Me too.
>
> SPOILER SPACE for the first season of 24...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ... while we're on the general subject.
> Has anyone here seen the "alternative ending"? The one which
> reputedly wasn't aired anywhere but only available on the DVD
> set, and which, reputedly, was significantly better and a proper
> closure? If so, could they please retell it?

Really? I hadn't heard of that. But we watched that season on
rented DVDs... Was it supposed to be an easter egg, or just a
special feature?

-Mary

--
The blog I said I'd never write --
http://viewfromthecorner.blogspot.com
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251797 ] Di, 11 April 2006 12:10
Orjan Westin  
MetaMary wrote:
> Orjan Westin wrote:
>
>> MetaMary wrote:
>>> If it's Tale casting, then I think Messy could be done well by
>>> Sarah Clarke
>>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334179/
>> That leads to Laura Graham as well. Did you mean Sarah Clarke from
>> 24? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1020124/
>
> Er... Yes. I really *liked* Nina.

Ah. Personally, I have no opinion. My days are too short for me to be
able to follow any series at all. I've seen the sporadic episode of
House, been baffled by five minutes of Lost, winced and changed channel
after a couple of minutes of Desperate Housewives and that's about it.

Oh, yeah, I bought Once More With Feeling as a present to my GF last
year, so I've seen that.

The only things I sit down and actually watch nowadays are Scrapheap
Challenge (Junkyard Wars) and Mythbusters. Which probably says soething
or the other about me and my admiration for clever technical solutions.

>> I have to confess I always thoguht Messy should be played by Sandra
>> Bullock.
>
> She's okay, but since she bears a such a striking resemblance to
> my cousin Elizabeth, she can't possibly play me.

I'm guessing that your cousin does not entirely unlike your esteemed
self, then?

Orjan
--
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
Fiction, Thoughts and Software
http://www.cunobaros.com/
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251803 ] Di, 11 April 2006 12:58
sphira9343  
Orjan Westin wrote:

>I've seen the sporadic episode of
> House...

Good for two episodes or so running, and then he starts to get
irritating. But at least the young female doctor isn't mooning around
over him anymore (something I found even more irritating). Hugh
Laurie's not a bad actor though.
Anyway, what is it with medical dramas at the moment? The channels are
practically full of the things.

> been baffled by five minutes of Lost,

I recorded seventeen episodes of that, and watched none of them.

> winced and changed channel
> after a couple of minutes of Desperate Housewives

Oh yes. Good for about five minutes and then irritating as hell.

> Oh, yeah, I bought Once More With Feeling as a present to my GF last
> year, so I've seen that.

At the moment, the only thing I'll actually watch avidly is... well, I
was going to say Q.I. but that finished ages ago. New series of Dr Who
on Saturday, of course...

CCA
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251825 ] Di, 11 April 2006 14:54
Mary Messall  
Orjan Westin wrote:
> Ah. Personally, I have no opinion. My days are too short for me to be
> able to follow any series at all.

That's what download^W DVD's are for...

> The only things I sit down and actually watch nowadays are Scrapheap
> Challenge (Junkyard Wars) and Mythbusters. Which probably says soething
> or the other about me and my admiration for clever technical solutions.

I'd need cable for that. And I'd need to be home when they're on,
which never happens. I did try to download some Junkyard Wars the
other day (after watching "American Inventor," because I had a
craving for a real invention game show) but the attempt failed.

>>>I have to confess I always thoguht Messy should be played by Sandra
>>>Bullock.
>>She's okay, but since she bears a such a striking resemblance to
>>my cousin Elizabeth, she can't possibly play me.
> I'm guessing that your cousin does not entirely unlike your esteemed
> self, then?

A bit, only more Bullockish.

-Mary

--
The blog I said I'd never write --
http://viewfromthecorner.blogspot.com
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251847 ] Di, 11 April 2006 16:31
Flesh-eating Dragon  
CCA wrote:

> Good for two episodes or so running, and then he starts to get
> irritating. But at least the young female doctor isn't mooning around
> over him anymore (something I found even more irritating).

How dare you disagree with me! Take that!! <utilises pillow>

Incidentally, House is pretty much the only television my sister
watches, and she's a medical student, so she practically counts it as
research.

Adrian.
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251932 ] Di, 11 April 2006 22:01
Eric Jarvis  
MetaMary mks_mary [at] sbcglobal.net wrote in
<RFN_f.14975$tN3.12731 [at] newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>:
> Orjan Westin wrote:
>
> > The only things I sit down and actually watch nowadays are Scrapheap
> > Challenge (Junkyard Wars) and Mythbusters. Which probably says soething
> > or the other about me and my admiration for clever technical solutions.
>
> I'd need cable for that. And I'd need to be home when they're on,
> which never happens. I did try to download some Junkyard Wars the
> other day (after watching "American Inventor," because I had a
> craving for a real invention game show) but the attempt failed.
>

There's also a step up from Scrapheap Challenge. Salvage Squad, which
involves renovating unusual vehicles. It sometimes has the same level of
inventive improvisation but also features really high levels of
craftsmanship. I find it reassuring that both programmes have an audience.
Incidentally the main engineer on Salvage Squad is a woman which is also
neat.

We also have a step down from Mythbusters. Brainiac - Science Abuse, which
is immensely entertaining, particularly the fixation on blowing up
caravans in obscure ways.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251935 ] Di, 11 April 2006 22:13
Orjan Westin  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> There's also a step up from Scrapheap Challenge. Salvage Squad, which
> involves renovating unusual vehicles.

Oh? I'll have to check that out, then. When is it on?

> We also have a step down from Mythbusters. Brainiac - Science Abuse,
> which is immensely entertaining, particularly the fixation on blowing
> up caravans in obscure ways.

I've seen bits of a couple of episodes. While not entirely my cup of
tea, I do appreciate that it's probably very successful in interesting
"lads" in science.

I saw the experiment where they tried to find out whether natural or
artificially enhanced female breasts were the best floatation aids.
Putting two pretty young ladies with very large busts and tiny bikinis
in a swimming pool is probably a scientific job that would interest most
young men.

Oh, the conclusion was that they were equally effective. I tell you
this so you don't have to try to find and see the episode if you missed
it. ;-)

Orjan
--
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
Fiction, Thoughts and Software
http://www.cunobaros.com/
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251940 ] Di, 11 April 2006 22:34
news0604  
Orjan Westin wrote:
> My days are too short for me to be
> able to follow any series at all.
>

[cross-thrad]

Another reason to put a PDA into your backpack...

Michael
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251942 ] Di, 11 April 2006 22:41
Orjan Westin  
Michael J. Schülke wrote:
> Orjan Westin wrote:
>> My days are too short for me to be
>> able to follow any series at all.
>>
>
> [cross-thrad]
>
> Another reason to put a PDA into your backpack...

But then I would have to:
a) find somewhere to download them from,
b) find somewhere to buy them from,
c) buy them on DVD and rip them, or
d) get a TV tuner card and hook the computer up to the cable box and
remember to set it to the right channel

All are too much hassle. Anyway, since I already have a laptop with
good battery life in my backpack, I can't really see the point in
getting another device, with smaller screen.

Orjan
--
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
Fiction, Thoughts and Software
http://www.cunobaros.com/
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251958 ] Mi, 12 April 2006 00:02
news0604  
Orjan Westin wrote:

> But then I would have to:
> a) find somewhere to download them from,

Not too hard (iTunes if you prefer them legal; the usual suspects
otherwise).

> d) get a TV tuner card and hook the computer up to the cable box and
> remember to set it to the right channel

Which is what I did.

> All are too much hassle. Anyway, since I already have a laptop with
> good battery life in my backpack, I can't really see the point in
> getting another device, with smaller screen.

Point taken. My laptop weighs more than 2kg [1], so I prefer not to lug
it around unless I really need it.

In the case of my last workplace, I didn't: with computers both at home
and at work, and a broadband link between them, I didn't need it at
either end; and I figured I could survive a 40 minute commute without a
PC. Watching recorded TV on a PDA, OTOH, is a nice option when you're
too tired to read...

Michael

[1] self-pedanting: more than 20N, really
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251976 ] Mi, 12 April 2006 01:02
Eric Jarvis  
Orjan Westin nospam [at] cunobaros.com wrote in
<4a2gvdFrc16lU1 [at] individual.net>:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
> >
> > There's also a step up from Scrapheap Challenge. Salvage Squad, which
> > involves renovating unusual vehicles.
>
> Oh? I'll have to check that out, then. When is it on?
>

At the moment reruns are late afternoon on the Discovery Channel.

> > We also have a step down from Mythbusters. Brainiac - Science Abuse,
> > which is immensely entertaining, particularly the fixation on blowing
> > up caravans in obscure ways.
>
> I've seen bits of a couple of episodes. While not entirely my cup of
> tea, I do appreciate that it's probably very successful in interesting
> "lads" in science.
>

It works two ways, there is also the way they set up clearly invalid
experiments for the hell of it, which appeals to the remnants of the
scientist in me. It'a often precisely how lab work should really be. The
second series toned down the scantily clad ladies quite a bit, and went
for more blowing stuff up.

> I saw the experiment where they tried to find out whether natural or
> artificially enhanced female breasts were the best floatation aids.
> Putting two pretty young ladies with very large busts and tiny bikinis
> in a swimming pool is probably a scientific job that would interest most
> young men.
>
> Oh, the conclusion was that they were equally effective. I tell you
> this so you don't have to try to find and see the episode if you missed
> it. ;-)
>

My all time favourites have been walking on custard and what to land on
when you jump out of a burning building. There are usually a few gems and
a fair bit of dross, but always a reminder of why I like knowing what,
how, and why.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #251987 ] Mi, 12 April 2006 01:30
Marco Villalta  
MetaMary <mks_mary [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Marco Villalta wrote:
>
>> SPOILER SPACE for the first season of 24...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ... while we're on the general subject.
>>
>> Has anyone here seen the "alternative ending"? The one which
>> reputedly wasn't aired anywhere but only available on the DVD
>> set, and which, reputedly, was significantly better and a
>> proper closure? If so, could they please retell it?
>
> Really? I hadn't heard of that. But we watched that season on
> rented DVDs... Was it supposed to be an easter egg, or just a
> special feature?

I don't know, but the way I heard it advertised, it seems to have
been unhidden.

--
Marco Villalta -- afpStuff in headers
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #252035 ] Di, 11 April 2006 22:54
esmi  
on 11/04/2006 21:13 Orjan Westin said the following:
<snip>

> Putting two pretty young ladies with very large busts and tiny bikinis
> in a swimming pool is probably a scientific job that would interest most
> young men.

I've found that this pretty much sums up just about every other Brainiac
'experiment'[1]. Eminently missable, IMO.

esmi

[1] The odd numbered experiments centering mainly on blowing things up.
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #252041 ] Mi, 12 April 2006 11:14
Orjan Westin  
esmi wrote:
> on 11/04/2006 21:13 Orjan Westin said the following:
> <snip>
>
>> Putting two pretty young ladies with very large busts and tiny
>> bikinis in a swimming pool is probably a scientific job that would
>> interest most young men.
>
> I've found that this pretty much sums up just about every other
> Brainiac 'experiment'[1]. Eminently missable, IMO.
>
> [1] The odd numbered experiments centering mainly on blowing things
> up.

That's not fair. You forget all the experiments where they have someone
drink lots of beer and see how this affects his ability to play darts,
and where people are given different spicy dishes to check which one
gives you the worst breath...

As I said, it's not my cup of tea. There is a good show in there,
somewhere, but it's too "laddish" for me. Carmilla, recently turned 13
(already?!), enjoys it though, so maybe I'm just being snobbish.

Orjan
--
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
Fiction, Thoughts and Software
http://www.cunobaros.com/
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #252045 ] Mi, 12 April 2006 11:44
Diane L  
Marco Villalta wrote:
> MetaMary <mks_mary [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Marco Villalta wrote:
>>
>>> SPOILER SPACE for the first season of 24...

and for the 'alternative ending'

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ... while we're on the general subject.
>>>
>>> Has anyone here seen the "alternative ending"? The one which
>>> reputedly wasn't aired anywhere but only available on the DVD
>>> set, and which, reputedly, was significantly better and a
>>> proper closure? If so, could they please retell it?
>>
>> Really? I hadn't heard of that. But we watched that season on
>> rented DVDs... Was it supposed to be an easter egg, or just a
>> special feature?
>
> I don't know, but the way I heard it advertised, it seems to have
> been unhidden.

It was on the UK release as a special feature, accessed from the menu.
Kiefer Sutherland's wife lives. He finds her tied up in the backroom,
he, his wife and his daughter all hug each other and everyone lives
happily ever after.

Something like that, anyway. I prefer the ending they went with,
though it would have been much better if they'd offed the daughter
instead of the wife.

Diane L.
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #252054 ] Mi, 12 April 2006 12:28
Torak  
Orjan Westin wrote:
> esmi wrote:
>
>>on 11/04/2006 21:13 Orjan Westin said the following:
>><snip>
>>
>>>Putting two pretty young ladies with very large busts and tiny
>>>bikinis in a swimming pool is probably a scientific job that would
>>>interest most young men.
>>
>>I've found that this pretty much sums up just about every other
>>Brainiac 'experiment'[1]. Eminently missable, IMO.
>>
>>[1] The odd numbered experiments centering mainly on blowing things
>>up.
>
>
> That's not fair. You forget all the experiments where they have someone
> drink lots of beer and see how this affects his ability to play darts,
> and where people are given different spicy dishes to check which one
> gives you the worst breath...
>
> As I said, it's not my cup of tea. There is a good show in there,
> somewhere, but it's too "laddish" for me. Carmilla, recently turned 13
> (already?!), enjoys it though, so maybe I'm just being snobbish.

I like the explosions, but I don't like the style. As you say, too
laddish - and, in many bits, too childish. And don't get me started on
the eminently fastforwardable "I can do science, me".

Exploding Golf and the thermite bits are fun, though.
Re: [I].Tale not cancelled, nor sold [message #252238 ] Do, 13 April 2006 00:50
raltbos  
"CCA" <sphira9343 [at] aol.com> wrote:

> Orjan Westin wrote:
>
> > Oh, yeah, I bought Once More With Feeling as a present to my GF last
> > year, so I've seen that.
>
> At the moment, the only thing I'll actually watch avidly is... well, I
> was going to say Q.I. but that finished ages ago. New series of Dr Who
> on Saturday, of course...

And UC, and MM. And one or two quizzes on Dutch telly.

Richard
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